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dance of joy
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 Posted: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 10:30 am
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Hey Susie ::hearts

I am the one in the thread called 'LOA Breakup Party.'

You are deserving of what you truly want. Ask the universe for clarity. Love yourself.

Love,
Christine

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 Posted: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 02:49 pm
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Dear Christine,

Yes, I went to that thread immediately after Grace full had pointed it out.  (Thank you Grace full) I was particularly appreciative of Melba Toast's Quote. 
And so, if you can just relax a little bit and get over the sensation of emptiness, of not being connected with this powerful, wonderful person, and instead just relax a little bit and remind yourself who you are and using your wonderful words, reach for as many thoughts of appreciation as you can find because that is the quickest key and we think that you are close enough to it that you could – aside from an occasional spell where you are really far from it – we do not think it would be much trouble for you to get consistently into a vibration of appreciation. 

 

While I pondering on that and your description of your breakup, I wondered how it played out.  But I didn't want to ask personal details.  With the intention of sharing and embracing new insights, I will share a few.

You see, I feel like I ran smack dab into a few boulders in my stream.  I have broke up w/this man a number of times, then through his persistant tenacity I have relented and "tried" again. 

So, last week I told him, my passion for him had softened and I really couldn't honestly continue to be a couple, I just don't want to commit to it, not at this time.  He stopped calling me, I didn't hear from him for 4 days.  In those four days, I could feel this bright loving energy flow, I could feel my body, which isn't use to that much sweet energy, resist a little.  I told myself to "tone it down" a notch before going to work. (As a hospice nurse, I can't just skip into a dying person's home, because I know they're just getting ready to croak and all is well). 

After the 4 days, I e-mailed him.  You see it was his birthday, and I wanted to acknowledge that.  Additionally, I knew that he was really hurting and I wanted to sooth that I suppose.  Well, that backfired, wow.....blast off.  He was just plain angry.  Anyway, all this mud starting flying at me from the opposite shore and what I do, I start throwing mud back.  I didn't just throw it back. I got down and rolled around in it.  I started eating mud and rubbing it into my belly.  Oh it was not pretty.  This could be catagorized as one of those "occasional spells" where I had parked my boat on the most desolate shore and marched far far far away from my delightful stream of life.   

I have to laugh at myself, today.  Because, with not to great of effort, when I was ready, I was able to turn myself around, walk back to my boat, weeping and waffling and start to float, again, a little.  Reading this forum, has been a great help.  It is really nice to know that people like you and Grace full are out there connecting in this amazing cyber way. 

I am delighted knowing that these experiences teach me, how I know deep down, all is well.  I am excited about having numerous insights today. 

I have to go to work now.  Thank you again for your words and your encouragement. 

Light on the Path,  Susie::group

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 Posted: Tue Jan 22nd, 2008 09:01 pm
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 You could be a mud wrestler!  I hope you rinsed off and didn't get your boat dirty!

I have broke up w/this man a number of times, then through his persistant tenacity I have relented and "tried" again. :shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:(no comment)::nod:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
After the 4 days, I e-mailed himOOPS!  Just had to mess with that feeling good, didn't you?::thumb


the bright side is - all that mud is great for your skin, I bet you are positively glowing!
and rolling in the mud can sure feel good::devil  (so can throwing it )

Lots of hugs for you!
::group::group::group






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 Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 05:25 am
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Dear Grace full,

Well, metaphorically the boat is crystal clear, but objective witnesses see reminents of vanilla ice cream and chocolate syrup laying around!  (raised eyebrow)

Your comments made me laugh.  Thank you from my heart.  aniheart    Sometimes we take this drama of life SOOO seriously. 

When I am driving around on my way from patient to patient, I listen to Abraham.  I have special subject CDs on relationships, health and wellness, death and living, and money manifestion. (those are pretty new)  Along with the Amazing Power of Emotions CD.  I listen and listen and I get broader and deeper in my understanding all the time.  If you know of other CD's that are especially good in your opinion, please let me know. 

I worked all day and I goin' go close the gap and snooze. 

Light on the Path,  Susie

Last edited on Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 05:26 am by amazingbeing

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 Posted: Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 04:13 pm
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amazingbeing wrote: But, on the label of Abusive men.  This man is powerful, he is brilliant, sexy, creative, artistic, musical, and funny.  He has acted in ways that I call abusive,,,, pushing, shoving, shouting, etc.  I know that the like attracts like factor was deep...he had experiences a child where his parents stood in front of him, shouting and pushing him, while at the same time telling him "you can't control yourself".  I think he bought that......... AND for me, I grew up and learned along the way that I didn't have control. So there it is like attracting like. 

However, for me the question continues.  Isn't it very likely that we came here to this earth place to gain understanding about these principles and then find GREAT joy in turning our boats downstream.  Together. 

He started reading Abraham and listening about the same time as I.  He continues to ask about co-creation.  He doesn't want to loose me.  He is learning and reaching, which I appreciate.  But honestly, I don't feel drawn to him.  I am so tired of trying to make it work.  I attempt to forgive and learn from the past, then some new incident occurs, causing great resentment and pain. 

thank you all for your embracing my unique being.

Light on the Path, Susie




 



Susie,
I posted a bit of rambling in defense of men and how I've been seeing on some posts lately opinions where men are labeled 'co-dependent' or 'abusive' and it's really been 'ringing my bell'. :shock:

So I've deleted that rambling reply and just want to say that I resonate with what you said above (in bold).

It's all about vibrations and matching vibrations. I feel that labeling anyone anything is really, after reading and studying Abraham, backwards/old fashioned thinking. We're leading edge thinkers and live-ers of life here and there are no victims and no villians, as Abe says. No bad guys and no powerless women. We are all vibrational and unique beings, like you said.

I understand you're not feeling drawn to him - probably not feeling drawn to the lower vibrations the situation continues to bring out in you. You mentioned your tired of trying to make it work. Sounds like significant contradiction in vibrations (feelings) about it all. Perhaps you don't *believe* in what you desire - that it can happen - with this man. (I've been there, so I can relate if you do feel that way).

When the going gets tough - what do we do? For me, it's propelled me into learning more about ...everything! And to really pull out and know all that I have received from Abraham's message. And it all comes down to one thing for me: acknowledge my vibrations on all subjects important to me and let go of resistance. The answers and the joy are right there waiting to be lived, under the resistance.

::hugging

::hearts::hearts::hearts::heartsJoyful Vibe::hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts

Last edited on Wed Jan 23rd, 2008 08:25 pm by joyful vibe

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 Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 01:59 pm
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Dear Joyful vibe and others,

I was so excited when I found this forum last week for a number of reasons.  One was I have been wanting help with this one question.  It has nagged at me, and when I attempted to verbalize it, it would come out jumbled and mud-like (I like mud :)) The thread's name is at the heart of it, but I still wasn't getting to the heart of it. 

But "miracles or miracles", the question is getting clearer!

What I think Abraham says in my words (Quote is in the  Law of Attraction book which I lent to a friend)  If you want to get away from someone because they bother you, you will have to leave the city, and then you'll have to leave the county and then you'll have to leave the state and then you might as well get off planet earth.  Abraham is telling us, you can't run away from your own vibe!

Now for me, this was difficult.  (sounds easy here) because, I knew that I was contributing to the problem,  A negative physical and emotional environment, but  I was at wits end trying to "figure" out how to break the cycle, the pattern.  For a long time, the Beautiful Man was in denial about his role, but eventually he acknowledged that.  And it still continued.  I wasn't so concerned about his role.  I wanted to change my vibe within the environment to consequently change the environment. 

Maybe, I just wasn't applying these principles correctly,  But maybe I couldn't within that environment and needed to get apart to sort it out, so to speak. 

So the heart of the question.  Do we have complete control of our environment, or is the Universe co-creators?  We have a vibe, environment has vibe?

See, in regard to relationships this concept is critical.  Over and over, I have heard Abraham say it in different ways.   Over the six years that the Beautiful Man and I have been together, I have talked to numerous counselors and people, many who are new age thinkers.  And the overwhelming recommendation has been to leave him.  Counselors would come out and say he won't change.  And what I was asking for, but not so clearly, was please help ME CHANGE my vibe within a negative environment.  Cause I know if I could master changing my vibe,  the environment has to change.   He'll vibe himself out of the environment or change his vibe.  (This is world affecting concept, I KNOW)

Get this though, he knew this was a desire of mine, and he would use it to stimulate a guilt in me for failing, for wanting to leave. 

Now, over the last couple weeks.  I have officially broke up with him.  It is heart breaking for both of us.  And he is finally "trying" to respect my choice, even though he doesn't like it and voices that.  He doesn't want to just be friends. 

But for me, oh my Gosh..... the energy is flowing wildly, beautifully and estatically.  I feel myself putting out better vibration and feeling better and better.  It is so much easier. 

As, I now ponder my request to the universe, "please help me change my vibration within an negative environment?" Gees what a stupid request, I think to myself!  Why ask that? .... but then really, on second thought, isn't that what earth life reeks of, the dicotomy of light and dark, the good/bad mix, kitchen with every thing in it, enjoy the contrast message. 

I don't live with the beautiful man now, I know his heart is breaking, because finally after trying everything that I knew how, I had to push away.  I decided to walk away from the kitchen that had alot of kimchee and seaweed and brussle sprouts and ingrediants that didn't agree with me, into a kitchen that had fewer unpleasant ingrediants in it, at least for now. 

I know in my heart that this move away from the Beautiful Man is actually toward him, but I still don't understand this.  I know that I needed to get better at vibing focused positive vibes alone, before I am ready for the real turnament.  Like I needed to push the reset button on the back of the modem. 

I would greatly appreciate others insights. 

Light on the path,   Susie

 

 

 

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 Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 10:46 pm
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amazingbeing wrote:  And what I was asking for, but not so clearly, was please help ME CHANGE my vibe within a negative environment.  Cause I know if I could master changing my vibe,  the environment has to change.   He'll vibe himself out of the environment or change his vibe.  (This is world affecting concept, I KNOW) 

To me, I feel, that this learning to change your vibe first and then the conditions will change to match your vibe is what you REALLY WANT. And you can have what you want.  
Furthermore, you cannot be happy until you are up to speed with what you want OR on your way, allowing, letting go of the oars, rather than trying to MAKE that happen.
:oars:

You have moved out and quit the relationship at present and therefore you feel not up to speed with what you really want. Yet you feel relief in your new environment and non-relationship. But your energy is split here so the discontent still lingers...

Well if I understand Abraham correctly, you must in order to be happy/in alignment not give up your desires (in fact you can't) and yet at the same time maybe staying in the relationship and working on your vibration is too much of a vibrational jump for you...since it feels like relief to quit it...If I were in your physical shoes I would follow my own guidance...it feels like relief...do it...but at the same time you do not have to give up on your desire of not changing conditions but changing vibration and allowing universe to match conditions....the universe will continue to match you with opportunities to work on that desire (maybe even the same relationship from a newer more aligned vibration, maybe not)....you chose, your the creator....the opportunities are endless...it's a dance with the universe between matching reality to vibration and changing vibration...but you don't have to fear just attracting another abuse relationship because you are constantly expanding, letting go of old beliefs and vibrations that attract that situation...it gets better and better and easier and easier as long as you continue to practice allowing...you don't have to be perfect at it...can't be....be easy about it....have fun with the journey....does that make sense? you don't have to feel like your a quitter or a failure...you can't get it wrong/cause you never get it done, right?

RICHann

Last edited on Thu Jan 24th, 2008 10:48 pm by Richann

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 Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 11:22 pm
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Just had another insight.
Your feeling guidance, negative emotion because your not seeing yourself the way Source is seeing you. The way your broader self is seeing you, who would never see you as a "quitter" a "failure."

I felt it exemplified in your choice of words for you subtitle, "might as well get out of the country." Even though your words are accurately stated and understood it's an in between the words vibration I am picking up on. You have not failed because you've left the environment.

Rather you have wonderfully allowed, followed your emotional guidance, trusting your own self, not listening to the influence of others....Hooray, for you...time to celebrate....you genius creator you....your allowing good things your way....
it's LAW::frog

RICHann

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There is nothing more important than that you feel good.
But for me, oh my Gosh..... the energy is flowing wildly, beautifully and estatically. I feel myself putting out better vibration and feeling better and better. It is so much easier.
Don't even think about how anyone else feels....


Richann beat me to the- between the words vibration I am picking up on. You have not failed because you've left the environment.
Here's another two that caught my attention-
Counselors would come out and say he won't change. And what I was asking for, but not so clearly, was please help ME CHANGE my vibe within a negative environment."please help me change my vibration within an negative environment?"
Especially the part about the negative environment, and the other part about the negative environment.
Get where I'm going with that one??::devil::devil::devil::devil

I don't believe Abe would advise you to stay in that 'negative environment, and beat it to death and make it positive, and all wil be well.  You seem to feel better, out of the 'negative environment' and THAT is what's important.

Besides the world is full of Beautiful Men,  I might even have one for sale cheap::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL

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 Posted: Fri Jan 25th, 2008 03:19 am
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Dear  Richann and Grace Full,

I had to print out your comments so that I could reflect on them.  I have sensed that I am sort of missing a piece which the both of you are tickling me with.  Thank you.  I've had a long couple days, so I will get back tomorrow. 

  One thought however:  You've heard of Victor Frankl, the Man's Search for Meaning.  In this book, he describes being in a concentration camp and when all his rights were stripped of him, and his family killed, he realized that the one freedom he had was his choice of attitude.  He's talking vibes.  I think he achieved great love and compassion, internal good vibes, but that didn't change the situation.  And in reference to Jesus Christ, the Romans didn't vibe right out of his environment, they vibed him out of their environment. 

I am so tired tonight, bed sounds like relief.  Again, I apprecate you all,  you are extraordinary people.  Wow, I am amazed and happy to have found you. 

Light on the Path,  Susie. 


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