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EllieWalsh
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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 01:59 am
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Hello to all.....

I'm looking for some help from you all........

I do some personal coaching - and lately I have had several clients who
have a diagnosis - either of a so-called incurable disease or a so-called
chronic disease....

While I believe we can all let go of the symptoms of any so-called disease
I truly do not have a situation from a person and can say -- This person
was diagnosed with this - this is what they did - and today they are symptom
free....

I know those folks are out there - but it usually doesn't hit the news!

Have you or do you know someone who has had this situation?

I would love to be able to reiterate some of these types of stories to
the people I am working with........

Thanks for your help!!

Ellie

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:47 am
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Hi, Ellie,

Abraham has talked a lot to medical doctors who were looking for advice to give patients with 'dread diseases'.  Basically what Abe said was that if the doctor is personally aware of a patient who has healed from a condition, then that doctor should tell the patient with the same dis-ease that it IS a condition that can be released. 

Abraham suggested that the doctor scour the journals and the internet to find these cases, so that the doctors themselves will have confidence in the possiblility of healing.

Abraham made the point that it is the confidence of the doctor him/her self that is so often THE critical element in the patient's healing.  If the doctor conveys it, the patient BELIEVES it, and then it has to have a positive outcome.

There is a very good interaction between Abe and a patient with a serious dis-ease on the Caribbean Cruise 2008.  There should be some of it in my notes on abrahamappreciators.com.  Maybe some other people got the notes, as well.

Even though you are not a doctor, you might consider doing some searches and seeing what you can find...

Last edited on Sun Oct 12th, 2008 02:48 am by patricia b

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 01:33 pm
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Hi Ellie,

In my 30 years of practicing nursing I have been so blessed to witness many many patients overcome "supposedly" incurable and chronic health issues. I have one particular patient who I will call "S" whose story I will share with you. "S" is a 44 year old male who became paraplegic from a millitary related accident in his early 20s. When "S" was around 35 he was diagnosed with a rapidly progressing form of multiple sclerosis. Despite these two conditions "S" continued to engage in life, but as his MS progressed and his care needs became greater, his family talked him into entering a nursing home two years ago. I would see "S" from time to time in the clinic following his nursing home admission, and he would tell me he had to find a way out of that nursing home because there was no life there, and he still had more in him despite his infirmities. I received a call from "S" about 6 months ago informing me that he fell in love and was getting married to a nursing assistant that he met in the nursing home, and she was going move him into her home and quit her job to take care of him, as they both could live on his disability pension. I assisted "S" with his transition out of the nursing home and made sure he had everything he needed for equiptment and supplementary home health care to live comfortably in his new home. A week after "S" was in his new home he developed pneumonia and ended up in the hospital on a ventillator with a very poor prognosis for recovery. Since "S" was very well known to the hospital staff, most believed this turn of events was the beginning of the end for "S", and the hospice team was waiting in the wings to step in once permission from "S's" wife was given to stop treatment. "S's" wife came to see me in my office in tears of frustration because everyone was telling her to have the plug pulled, and she did not believe this should even be a consideration at this time. I asked her if "S" was responding at all, and she said yes he would squeeze her hand. I told her to go back to "S" and ask him to show her by a hand squeeze if he wanted to continue treatment because this was his and only his decision to make if he could. About a hour later "S's" wife returned to my office to tell me she got the hand squeeze that "S" wanted to continue treatment. Within several days of the hand squeeze "S's" condition improved, he was taken off the ventillator and breathing on his own, and within a week was discharged home. "S's" condition continued to improve at home, and despite his paraplegia and MS which "S" refers to as minor inconviences, he is fully engaged in life, and I just got a call from him several days ago telling me he was in New Hampshire on vacation with Mrs. "S" enjoying the beautiful folliage. "S" also said jokingly that he had to become paralized, get MS, and enter a nursing home in order to meet Mrs. "S" who is his greatest blessing in life.

Ellie, from my experience with "S" , the best you can do for your clients is to make them realize that despite whatever diagnosis they are handed, today they are ALIVE. Many people who are handed a dreaded diagnosis begin to forget they are still alive and start disengaging from the world of the living, and thus begin the death process in their heads and their bodies will follow suit. If you can help your clients to continue to engage in the world of the living, and pursue activities that still bring them joy such as the simple pleasure looking at beautiful folliage, these joyful experiences will increase via the LOA, and the state of joy is the greatest fuel to foster hope and enhance anyone's life force.

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 01:54 pm
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Hi Ellie - wasnt there a woman on The Secret movie who had an amazing response to her attitudinal changes re her Breast Cancer. And the man who was in the Plane Crash. I too would love to find more anecdotal evidence of this kind of story. I should think that this is something Louise Hay may speak of alot  too.

Good Luck with your search - please share any results with us.

Love Suncat

EllieWalsh
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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 07:30 pm
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Thank You all for sharing these stories!

Patricia B - I don't see notes from you at abrahamappreciators?

I have 2 clients with separate issues

D is in her early forties - has been diagnosed with severe hearing degeneration when she was 7 - Today she has extremely limited hearing even with hearing aids....
While I have pointed out that she actually hears much better than most of us - as she indeed uses all of her senses to hear not just her ears... The one thing I think that might be holding her back is that diagnosis - as she was told to prepare to lose all of her hearing and that is what she is doing - preparing for this......

J is 21 yrs old - has an odd diagnosis - of some type of uncontrollable vomiting. He has been having these vomiting fits since he is about 3 years old.... and has been listening to doctors say for these last 18 years - there is nothing we can do for this! If you have ever had the dry heaves -- well he gets bouts of this for hours and many times ends up in the hospital.
He has a huge belief in what the doctors say as he has been hearing this for the last 18 years...

For both of these folks - I work on making peace with what is happening and then exploring the realm of letting go of what the doctors call truth while utilizing the doctors to help ease the symptoms and exploring their own power within their own bodies.

I know for me utilizing reference points in my life is extremely helpful... It is always best to have your own reference points - but I can always borrow a reference point from someone else's experience. If this happened for so and so then it can happen for me!

That is why I am looking for these stories, as right now both of these folks do not have postive reference points....

I'm going to do some research and if you find any links, stories - I would absolutely appreciate it... I also will post what I find.

Thanks so much!

Big Hugs,
Ellie

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 Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 09:05 pm
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EllieWalsh

Look on this page for the Caribbean Cruise notes.

http://www.abrahamappreciators.com/

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 Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2010 07:11 pm
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I have heard one of Abraham Hicks answers to questions regarding Alzheimer's disease, and I was somewhat satisfied with the answer they gave. I work with individuals with this disease, and I do get disturbed sometimes, at the behaviour and wonder, do these people REALLY want to live like this, because you ask ANYONE and they say, "if i ever start acting like that" please put me out of my misery!

I have other thoughts bouncing around in my head about the disease multiple sclerosis (MS).
It's one of the worst diagnoses to be given.
I start to think though, if I were given that diagnosis, I would fight it, and wouldn't let it be a death sentence, it wouldn't "define" whom I am, i would just think that I must really be in a contrast.

anyways, what are your thoughts?


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