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songbird
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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 08:19 pm |
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Hello wonderful abers,
I would like to understand more about the abraham teachings regarding disscussing/talking. In context to talking about things that are going on with our lives. I would like to be a more conscious abe disscusser!! (Focusing on what I DO want).
I am thinking about the LOA and how it draws to us more of what we discuss. And the thing i read alot is how the person who talks about xxxx more has more xxxx. And i am thinking about this in relation to talking about things that may be challenges.
I feel i have a bit of a dilema about not talking about things i may be having difficulty with. I am feel that i dont want to discuss things that arent as i would like them to be, because of the LOA,and also the impact of how others see you (i read about this is AAIG). So i have stopped telling people how it is and just say when asked yes i am ok or i am doing really well thanks. eg. and i do also feel alighned to it.
But also i feel that sometimes it helps to talk about things that your having problems with. I wonder if i am using this teaching in someway that maybe fuels an exsiting tendency which is to "Keep it all in" as i was shown in a dream once to a song..."You know your problem...you keep it all in..."!!!
So i would really appreciate some abraham advise around disscussing things. I would love to learn about this subject so that i better understand it.
Is there a way to discuss things that you may be experiencing that are challenging, that honours the need of expression but does not manifest negatively. I guess what i am wanting is to learn to be more skillful around communication and in particular communication about things that i am experiencing as difficult, ie not wanted, like health or other issues. As well understanding more from abraham in this same context ,the issue of denial or repression of communication.
I would love to understand abes teaching on this subject more fully, and what abraham says about talking about things, and or repressing expression. Thank you.
Love
Songbirdxxxxxx
Last edited on Fri May 9th, 2008 09:49 pm by songbird
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Scott
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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 08:44 pm |
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songbird wrote:
So i have stopped telling people how it is and just say when asked yes i am ok or i am doing really well thanks. eg. and i do also feel aligned to it...
Is there a way to discuss things that you may be experiencing that are challenging, that honours the need of expression but does not manifest negatively. I guess what i am wanting is to learn to be more skillful around communication and in particular communication about things that i am experiencing as difficult, ie not wanted, like health or other issues. As well understanding more from abraham in this same context ,the issue of denial or repression of communication.
If you feel in alignment when you're telling someone that you're doing fine or all is well, then you're in alignment. No need to take it any further.
When I find myself with a brief, temporary case of "what-is-itis," I do find it helpful to write it down, or as Abraham calls it, "poking it with a stick." That helps me to see where I'm putting my boat in the stream. I do that in the context of looking at my old story and then writing my new story, thus leaving it in a new place of vibration.
They also discuss their process of writing "_____________, what thoughts am I thinking about you that I'm using as my excuse to not line up with Who I Really Am?" Again, more poking at it with a stick, but only used as a temporary starting point, or jumping off point to a new vibration.
When you're choosing to discuss a subject of discomfort with another, it might be good to decide first if this person is going to commiserate with you and join you in paddling upstream. Abraham tells the story of Esther summoning Jerry to the front of the monster bus because she has something to say, but by the time he gets to the front, she recognized it was an upstream thought and then decided not to talk about it. She realized that if he had been right there and she had just started talking, he might have joined with her in that upstream thought and then they are both paddling against the current. Or, he might not have been willing to join her in an upstream thought, which might have Esther feel even more upstream because no one was willing to engage with her on that thought.
You might even consider having the conversation out loud with yourself and give yourself an opportunity to move it downstream before you choose to discuss it with another. You'll be able to tell by the way you feel when you're telling your story if it's upstream or downstream. And practicing in your head, or out loud or on paper is a good way to get some momentum going for telling your new story with more ease.
Here's to better feeling stories!
Scott
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rocknrollgoddess
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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 08:57 pm |
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one of the most valuable pieces of information regarding the universe is this...
if YOU decide on a process that feels good to YOU--and you get in alignment with that....then the universe will bend over backwards to make that so for you...
That said--i have with a dear soul sister friend of mine developed a process that really works so you CAN discuss anything that is in your current now--or anything that was in your past that you feel reflects on your current now, without ADDING energy to that thing...
If you have ever seen or heard about how they do open heart surgery--they use a blood recirculator--this system takes all the blood out of the body and recycles it through the brain and body, thus nurturing the body, but it bypasses the main pumping muscles of the heart, so they can operate on it without the person losing all their blood...when i talk to certain people about things i am currently experiencing, i use a similar system like this--its a spiritual energy recirculator and it works like this...
If i feel the need to "open the valve to let off steam" i get into a mental place where i say--i am disconnecting my main power from the universe and i am going to recirculate...
I can then, VENT, RANT, BITCH, MOAN, feel sad, discuss, whatever, knowing full well that what i am talking about in that brief time is not affecting my overall vibration--and that energy is not going out to the universe...
At the end of the discussion period, i always find a better feeling place on the matter--and then i honor the contrast, or the situation, that created in me a huge rocket of desire that set off a creative vortex to make my life even better--i do not leave that space of recirculation until i find even a little bit better feeling place and a little bit of hope...I then "mentally and spiritually reconnect with my main power source" and i thank my "witness" the person working with me on the issue for the blessing of having them sit and observe in a non-judgemental and unconditionally loving way...
i have created this mental process for myself--aligned with it--felt good about it, used it to great success and so--it IS....
others feel fear about discussing what is because they will draw more of that to them--and i can understand that--if i were talking about these issues constantly and trying to get sympathy for them, or have someone else give me solutions to them, then i would definitely be drawing them to me...
but to voice what is--release any pent up energy around it, so your cork is floating nicely downstream and then find a better feeling place--that is a wonderful thing...because, as a life long sailor--i KNOW full well that if you are running with the wind it takes a lot to turn that boat around and tack in another direction--especially if the current is strong...
 hugs!
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float_on
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Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 08:59 pm |
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Scott wrote: When you're choosing to discuss a subject of discomfort with another, it might be good to decide first if this person is going to commiserate with you and join you in paddling upstream.
Hi Songbird!
I'm glad you brought this up - I was just thinking about this subject earlier this week. I think Scott's comment here is a good one....
I'd been kinda stuck with a particular issue in my life for a few weeks - and being stuck it just kept getting magnified (more thoughts, feel worse, etc.). Over the weekend I had two "discussions" with two separate friends. The first conversation made me feel worse - she had a similar issue going on and gave me the "yeah, I know! I hate it too!" response. The second friend helped me put things in perspective a bit - asked me some questions to help me clarify my thoughts. I still felt pretty cruddy, but was moving up the scale. Then I decided to make an appointment to see a counselor that helped me through a VERY tough time in the past and who I see from time to time when I get "stuck".
As soon as I made the decision to see her, I knew it was the right decision. She always finds a way to lift me from wherever I am to a higher place on the scale. She validates where I am and then gently suggests alternate perspectives. I walked out of that meeting feeling hope (and about 20 pounds lighter).
For me, the best part about having someone like her to "discuss" things with is that I keep getting better and better at turning my boat around on my own, by remembering how she helped me when I was in her office. There are other people that I know I don't want to talk to when I'm feeling low... I'll just perpetuate where I am.
 melisa
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Posted: Sat May 10th, 2008 05:47 am |
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Yeah. I have thought about this myself and I think it is key to recognize simply if it's making you feel better or worse. (Obvious, I guess).
I think that is what friends are for- if you have a really good one, they will just listen and it will help you to let go of the oars.
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