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lovinglife80
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 Posted: Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 09:18 am
I totally understand how I manifested this disease!  Now, I would like to reverse it, get rid of it, etc.  I'm not sure how to do that.  I had a great quote by abe that referred to a situation similar to mine and I lost the darn thing.  LOL!  Anyway, any quotes you all might have would be great!! 

I do remember abe saying something about taking my attention off of it to stop manifesting it.  Worked great in my early days of Abe learning, and now, nothing.  I once developed a nasty rash on one of my feet that wouldn't go away for a year. To this day I don't know what that was.  But I did ignore it and focused on my healthy foot and eventually forgot about the rash and then somewhere around two weeks later I glanced at the bottom of my foot in the shower and it was gone!  Nothing else other than re-focusing my attention.  But I think this might be a little more complicated than that.  ::TU

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First, are you significantly overweight?  Just asking.  Some things you can't ignore.  Do you eat a lot of sugar?  How are you taking care of yourself?  

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In every instance, disease is simply an indicator -- it's just an aggravated case of the same things that caused you negative emotion.  In other words, if you step back and look at this new manifestation and feel worry, it means that you had a chronic vibration of worry that you didn't do anything about.  As you get better at feeling better, your indicators must change.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 11:04 am
Hello, lovinglife80! ::hugging

I believe Abraham when they say not one thing is, vibrationally speaking, more complicated that another. Diabetes does not equal a bigger deal than a foot rash, it is only our perception of it that makes it so.

But I was watching one of the Master Course DVDs (::woohoo) recently in which they were telling a hotseater that there is a certain correlation between the SEVERITY of a dis-ease and the vibrational/emotional cause. In their examples, they spoke of sinus problems as being somewhere around irritation, while strokes/heart attacks were connected with anger/rage. IOW, the more severe the disease, the greater the vibrational gap between you and YOU indicated by the emotional association you have with your dis-ease. And they said that if we can clean up our emotional household, so to speak, and get happy any way we can, then any unwanted conditions we are suffering from health-wise MUST clear up.
 
So there is no doubt in my mind that you can allow your well-being to flow fully again via vibrational work. The most complicated thing about it is that this condition of diabetes is so in your face, and the amount of "information" and "advice" about it is so huge in society, that just removing your focus on it
entirely might prove a little difficult. :) Any way, the most important thing you have to do, your very first step on your journey back to well-being, is to ACCEPT that this condition is your what-is right now instead of pushing against it. You have to make peace with it.

It is up to you whether or not you want to explore the emotions/vibrational causes associated with this dis-ease in your case. It is not actually necessary, but if there are some limiting thoughts/beliefs lurking in the background that you are not consciously aware of, it could be of great help to feel around for them and let them go (Abraham also said something to that effect during that same exchange). Your call. Personally, I'd look at the latter because I'd prefer any significant, yet sort of "hidden" resistance I might harbor not to squeeze out in a form I might find even more distressing.

::ohm
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 Posted: Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 04:23 pm
My grandfather recently manifested this disease at age 91.  He's not overweight, but vibrationally it made perfect sense to me based on his recent emotions.

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CR wrote: First, are you significantly overweight?  Just asking.  Some things you can't ignore.  Do you eat a lot of sugar?  How are you taking care of yourself?  
With all respect, I am surprised to hear you say these things on this board, CR.

They seem to come straight from the so-called "reality" about health out there in the sickness-oriented, problem-oriented world.  Yes, if you read all the mainstream magazines and newspapers, and watch all the alarmist 30-minute TV programs about how everyone is going to drop dead from EVERYTHING (unless they pay attention to the "Have you called Jenny?" ad following the program) then, of course, you will buy into the so-called reality of "Sugar bad." "Fat bad." Everybody says so, so it must be "true!"

Of course you mean well, of course you are trying to help this person, but I don't have diabetes and I read "Some things you can't ignore" and I felt hopeless, not hopeful, for this person asking for assistance in curing diabetes.

You are pointing them to physical "causes" of "dis-ease," which opposes the very core of the work of Abraham-Hicks.


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 Posted: Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 04:59 pm
:exactly:SlowJam! I kinda echo your sentiment, that's why I didn't post about that post you posted about. I thought I'd ignore it. ::LOL

Cindy, love, no worries. :allgood ::hugging

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 Posted: Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 05:07 pm
Totally agreed, SlowJam!

THATS not Abe-work, Cindy, I don´t think it will serve you either... ::hugging
and I just want to add for the fun, that I know a vew cases of bad diabetes from very healthy-living, slim persons.

In what I see, is diabetes always somehow connected with "not/not really beeing able to live the sweet sides of live". Where that comes from is very individual, but there seems to be THIS basic.

I can imagine very well that this form of scary and hindering illnes gives you somehow a knot in the brain, BUT:

All the answers are inside you. And they beg to be found, and reliefed! Feel around where the sadness, bitternes (or how it might feel to you) is connected to your everyday-beliefs.

I dont know if I am supposed to tell you that "homebuiltindoorplane" on u-tube is offering Abe-videos about diabetes that are thrilling. (just delete that if necessary)

You CAN do it, and if you get the hang of it it is easy! Just don´t push, try to "play"!::hugging

Last edited on Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 05:13 pm by paradise-on-earth

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I gotta check out those videos.

My 10yo daughter is the same weight I am now.  Only her waist is very large.

I can't help but be concerned about diabetes.  She will find starch and sugar someplace no matter what I do.  My grandmother has severe diabetes, had to shoot up twice a day in her legs.

Of course, she is not the least bit concerned, so I don't mention the diabetes thing, so it won't be tempted into her pie.

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chillinjoan wrote: I gotta check out those videos.

My 10yo daughter is the same weight I am now.  Only her waist is very large.

I can't help but be concerned about diabetes.  She will find starch and sugar someplace no matter what I do.  My grandmother has severe diabetes, had to shoot up twice a day in her legs.

Of course, she is not the least bit concerned, so I don't mention the diabetes thing, so it won't be tempted into her pie.

Good to hear about not mentioning it to her.  About 6 years ago, my mom was obsessed with telling me that she thinks I have diabetes.  I am "morbidly obese" but don't have any diabetes symptoms.  Finally I got sick of hearing her and even pre-Abe I knew that focusing on it would give it to me, so I went to the doctor to get tested.  He looked into my eyes and said I definitely didn't have diabetes but he would prescribe the blood tests to make my mom happy cause I told him that's why I was there.   The negative results shut her up about it for a while.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 23rd, 2010 03:03 am
dis-ease

Amazing what a little hyphen can do for clarity, isn't it? You don't need any training to naturally understand the remedy for that.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 23rd, 2010 03:09 am
Amee wrote: My grandfather recently manifested this disease at age 91.  He's not overweight, but vibrationally it made perfect sense to me based on his recent emotions.

My mom just told me that my grandfather's doctor finally retired.  So he went to another doctor and they said he had no signs of diabetes.  So now I wondering if he just manifested a diagnoses (from a doctor who should have retired decades ago) but not the actual disease.  Or was he able to go downstream after getting an actual diagnoses of something (he's been in and out of the hospital for various visits where the doctors don't know whats wrong and treat the symptoms) and healed himself.  Of course there's no way to know when its someone else, but it was something for me to ponder.

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Well all the talk about diabetes around the home since I was little might have had something to do with my manifesting this!! lol!  And all the talk about how I was so much like my dad's side of the family and how chubby I've always been, etc. etc.  Being made to feel guilty about my love of sweets by my diabetic family members and the so called health and fitness media.  So i have a pretty good idea of how I manifested this, and now HOW DO I GET RID OF IT?  Should I soften my resistance to perfect bodily health, soften my resistance to the food I just can't stop eating, or ignore it and re-focus?  Kind of hard to just ignore it and refocus. 

Hmm.  Maybe if I change my thoughts about the food I eat because it's always eaten and enjoyed with such mixed emotions (guilty pleasure) and I have no idea how to soften my resistance to perfect bodily health.  I've tried a focus wheel on my excess sugar consumption.  Doesn't work.  Tried another focus wheel on regaining health.  Works to some degree.  Another approach would be to do a focus wheel on the food that I eat.  Maybe move into a place where I can thoroughly and completely enjoy it, without any guilty feelings or regret.  What do you guys think?

Luv ya and always progressing and growing, 

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lovinglife80 wrote:
Being made to feel guilty about my love of sweets by my diabetic family members and the so called health and fitness media.  So i have a pretty good idea of how I manifested this.


There you have a perfect start! Shame is a very heavy "dis-ease".
It´s a big STEP 1. Now you know what you don´t want- start thinking about what you DO wont! You really just could pivot it, take the sheer opposite. And that should be a joyfull thing...

Focus wheels are just working when you look forward to relief from a feeling. So, maybe, you might go for feeling at ease "beeing who you are"? To bring in the subject of "enjoying the sweet sides of live" in again- WHAT would/could that be to you?

Feeling free, not judged, feeling YOURSELF (not "like your fathers side of familie)?  I don´t know, just thoughts... What would FEEEEEL "sweet", or like sweet relief?
Thats the point where you might klick into place. The rest is "just" ::devil training.

All the very best, Elke! ::hugging


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 Posted: Mon Aug 23rd, 2010 10:30 am
Delilah was quoting in an other thread this from Abe, maybe it helps, too?

"The Formula for Creating
says: Identify your desire and then be sure that you are a vibrational match to your desire. So that the signal that you are offering is a pure signal rather than a contradicted signal.

So that when you are offering the signal of wellness, then wellness becomes your experience. Then you say, "Well, Abraham, that's easy to do for someone who is already feeling well. It's easy to offer the vibration of wellness when I am well. But how do I offer the vibration of wellness when I am sick?"


And we say, by remembering when you were well, by imagining that you are well, by pretending that you are well, by de-emphasizing the fact that you are sick and re-emphasizing the feeling of wellness. That is your work. In other words, that's what Creative endeavor is about..."
--Abraham, Fri, Jan 4, 2008


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I just wanted to say i was appreciative,
to those who posted on this thread.:kiss:

I too, am trying to find a place of 'wellness'.
And it can at times, feel overwhelming, when you are looking at 'what is'.
Or trying too hard 'not to look'.
Thank you for reminding me once again, some of my thoughts are just bad habits.
And that i can do better. :)

There was great clarity here, for everyone.
Substitute '......... " for diabetes, and we've all found our answers.

Special thanks to Paradise-on-Earth,
for reminding me to 're-emphasize the feeling of wellness".
And how to do that. That it could 'feel easy'.
I was feeling a bit lost in the 'what is',
and a pivot to the 'sheer opposite' is a wonderful idea.

I have been carrying 'shame' for 32 years, simply because i am a lesbian.
I came out 32 years ago.
I can't remember a time when i've felt 'free' or 'not judged' or found 'simple relief' from those feelings.

I have created a rough ride for myself, regarding my mom's transition.
I've also been a bit worried about my feeling's of so much 'grief'.
I can see the emotion of 'grief' that created dis-ease in my life,
over another issue, a few years back. What i'm trying to 'ease and flow' with now.
Isn't it great, knowing we can reach for a better thought?
It just takes 'practice'.
Any of you who have comments on the feeling of 'grief',
and your experience of finding 'ease and flow' with that emotion, I'd appreciate.

The idea of a pivot to an opposite position, and finding some self acceptance, & self love,
sounds like some 'sweet relief' for sure.
I can see i've gotten lost in 'what is'.

And it made me feel happy to look back and remember,
when i did feel well. I had sort of forgotten.
I just wanted to say thanks. This thread has helped me a lot.
Each person who contributed words of Abe wisdom.

I'm a work in progress. However, for the last 2 years,
it's Esther's voice on my headset, as i try to fall asleep each night.
And nothing resonates more purely within me,
than the material of Abraham. And my well worn copy, Ask and it is Given.
"When you know what you know, you can't go back.'

Thank you all, for helping me, on prior threads.
For your patience, and words of wisdom.
Thanks for all of your love.
For being there, as i'm baby stepping, and doing a little bit better.

I had a weekend again, of heavy 'contrast' regarding my 'family'.
(Dad and 2 brothers).
And came home from my Dad's more resigned than ever.
Its time to focus on me, for me to reach for those better feelings.
That i cannot create in another' reality, no matter how loving my intentions.

Great clarity by loving Aber's on this one. Thank you.!



::downstream ::downstream ::downstream

Last edited on Mon Aug 23rd, 2010 01:30 pm by sedonawoman

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 Posted: Mon Aug 23rd, 2010 01:47 pm
sedonawoman wrote:
I'm a work in progress.


Beautifully stated, Sedona! We ALL are! ::hugging

::LOL

Thank you for your touching openness and the rampage of hope that you gave- from your place where you ARE.

Yes, I agree with you- trying to hard to be somewhere else is upstream again! Making peace with where you are is always the first step... and, in between the story, it is SO helpful again and again.

AND- is´nt it a great thing to know- WHENEVER we are ashamed, that this is the OPPOSITE to what source thinks about us on the same object?


::flowers    (Had no chance to get out of the "quote-box"!

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