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Lovable Allower
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 Posted: Tue Jun 8th, 2010 06:05 pm
I was just taking a five minute break and reading some articles from a website called 'emerging journeys - life on the leading edge' where Michael James interviews leaders of new thought such as Abe and Theo.

In an interview with Theo Michael asks the following question:

MICHAEL: What is Theo’s relationship with Abraham- another non-physical teacher who I feel offers excellent information often similar to Theo? Are you a similar energy? And are there any other books or teachers you recommend which resonate with your message?

 

THEO: We’ve been aware of Abraham, as one has known, for eternity. They are angelic collectives that teach much as we do through the entity or the personality of Esther Hicks- and they have been our students. And they are to be leaders in the initiation of awareness of this spiritual evolution.

There are other teachers that step forward- as there have always been mentors, teachers, prophets if you would, throughout history who God has spoken to or through. And presently at this period of time there are a grand number of teachers because of this evolutionary push, you might say.

We speak highly of the personality of Eckhart Tolle, Byron Katie- that are known through their publications and their experiences to be authentic teachers. We are not limited to only these, there are those that are lesser known and not known at all, except for a few that are stepping forward now. One can ascertain what is truth by their internal monitor, for truth will always will out; will always surface; will always be there, even if it is not liked. It will be accepted because it resonates as true knowing on a vibrational level within all souls. You may ask?

 

 

 

...so i was just wondering if Abe has ever commented on Theo at all?   ::hearts

 

 

 

 

 

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 Posted: Tue Jun 8th, 2010 06:46 pm
Just thought I'd mention that Theo is the collective consciousness of 12 Archangels channelled by Sheila Gillette.  Jerry and Esther talk about their private consultation with Theo in some of their books and on 'The Secret' as it was Theos advice to repeat specific affirmations and to mediteate which helped Esther to connect with Abraham and allow them to speak through her.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 8th, 2010 08:03 pm
I can't believe that in decades of reading Metaphysical works, I have never heard of Theo until you posted this!  I am fascinated and thinking of getting a personal reading.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 8th, 2010 10:14 pm
If you go onto the Abraham-Hicks website and listen to the free recording of Abraham, which explains how Esther first started communicating with Abraham, you will hear that Theo is actually who told Esther that she could.  I would go into more detail but you can hear for yourself on thier website directly.  That will explain bettter than I can.:)

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 Posted: Tue Jun 8th, 2010 10:21 pm
And I think it is in the introduction to their books, and I think also on the DVD, "The Secret Behind the Secret" where Peter Beamish asks Jerry and Esther how this all got started.

The confusion has occured surrounding Theo because the Hicks describe how they very much wanted to meet Jane Roberts, and have an experience with Seth.

Someone tells them that Jane Roberts just died, BUT right there in the town where they were at that time, is a wonderful woman who channels a very loving Presence called "Theo."  They went immediately, and the rest is "history."

Many people got the channel who died confused, and never went back to research Theo.

I think I have heard them mention Theo, maybe on a cruise workshop.  Esther was hoping to channel Theo, but Theo told her that she would have her own form of nonphysical contact, and that the "name" would come to her naturally. 

I think all this is on the DVD mentioned above, and in some of the earlier books....

THEO and Sheila and Marcus Gilette are wonderful...

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 Posted: Tue Jun 8th, 2010 10:33 pm
Thank you!  This is very exciting.  I believe I will do a personal reading.  It's amazing they have time for that.  I am very happy to be on this forum.  I have read many threads and all of you are amazing!!!

I love you all!

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 Posted: Tue Jun 8th, 2010 11:21 pm
I found Theo after knowing Abraham's teachings. I was aware of Theo being the conduit for Esther to start meditating and making her connection with Abraham. However, I think their name finally registered for me when Patricia B mentioned them on the forum here, and I followed up by learning more about them. (::TU Patricia :kiss:For me they both are superb teachers, and have brought so much richness and joy to my life. Theo's guided meditations are very powerful! Now I understand even more how meditation helped Esther make the connection with Abraham.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 12:08 am
Lovable Allower wrote:  Jerry and Esther talk about their private consultation with Theo in some of their books and on 'The Secret'

 

doh! sorry i ment 'the secret behind the secret'!

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 Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 12:32 am
Qzi wrote: I found Theo after knowing Abraham's teachings. I was aware of Theo being the conduit for Esther to start meditating and making her connection with Abraham. However, I think their name finally registered for me when Patricia B mentioned them on the forum here, and I followed up by learning more about them. (::TU Patricia :kiss:For me they both are superb teachers, and have brought so much richness and joy to my life. Theo's guided meditations are very powerful! Now I understand even more how meditation helped Esther make the connection with Abraham.


Qzi you beat me to it!! lol :exactly: Thanks for the tip off Patricia! ::flowers   ::hugging  i found out about theo in exactly the same way after following up mention of free podcasts ::moneyIve since found out there are 52 free 'ask theo live' podcasts available on itunes and i'm gradually working my way through each one - who needs the telly?!! And yes their guided meditations are beautiful!

 

 

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 Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 01:00 am
Lovable Allower wrote:

 

THEO: We’ve been aware of Abraham, as one has known, for eternity. They are angelic collectives that teach much as we do through the entity or the personality of Esther Hicks- and they have been our students. And they are to be leaders in the initiation of awareness of this spiritual evolution.


 

 


Has anyone got more info specifically on this part? I'm intrigued to hear Theo speak of Abe as 'angelic collectives' as i have never heard Abe descrbe themseves in such a way. What is an angelic consciousness? I know that angels are not supposed to have experienced life in the physical before and to be non physically focused and of high vibration, so that might fit with a description of Abe ( although isn't Jesus supposed to be part of the Abraham collective? He has obviously experienced life in the physical ) Does Theo's description of Abe correspond with Abe's description of themselves?

 

And the idea that Abe has been a student of a more advanced collective consciousness was a real surprise to me! Although the 'Conversations With God' books do seem to suggest that there are infinite hierarchys of intelligent consciousness.

fas-ci-na-ting!!

Last edited on Wed Jun 9th, 2010 01:14 am by Lovable Allower

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 Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 03:40 pm
Hi, Lovable Allower!

I don't know much about Sheila Gillette and Theo, I just can't "warm up" to her voice while she is bringing their message through, and so never got into it much. Abraham are much more "up my alley". But your thread did evoke a strong reaction from me, and I'd like to give it to you here.

The strongest initial reaction I had was a tightening over my heart when I read the word "hierarchy". It just felt "off" to me. So I became still and asked my IB for a little clarification, and the answer I received was, "There is none of that." And that constricted feeling lifted immediately. There simply is no hierarchy within Source Intelligence. What comes to us as "Theo" through Ms. Gillette or as "Abraham" through Esther Hicks is those ladies' choice of words in translating infinite wisdom. Wisdom that we ALL have access to, if we can only get ourselves to the vibrational place to "hear" it. Perhaps the more precise expression would be "feel it". There is no separation. It is ALL "US". We are Source, Source in its entirety, with extensions of it expressing in physical in all its glorious beauty, from the slightest speck of dust floating in space to all the complicated orchestration of every thing or being ever created and yet to be created.

So why do we even try to define these "beings" in terms of hierarchy? Because it is how we in physical have learned to see the world and ourselves after having "forgotten" the truth. It helps our minds to grasp these huge concepts, these truths that we inherently know but have forgotten and still on some level are in doubt about. We are in doubt about our own wisdom, and so allow ourselves to accept it again more easily when it is again "given" to us through these "higher", "more evolved" beings. But that is only a construct. It is not truth. It is merely an expression of the resistance/resistant thoughts we have built up about and against ourselves.

As far as "angelic" beings are concerned, this, too, is a construct to help us allow our own wisdom. The word itself, "angel", is from the Greek "angelos" and simply means "messenger". And that is what, in my mind, Theo and Abraham, along with Sheila and Esther, are. They are conveyors of a message from us to ourselves. And that is a great and important and beautiful message. That message is: We are Them. They are Us. We are all ONE. We are Creator and Creation. We are Source. Separation is an illusion that we create through our thoughts. We are all teachers AND students simultaneously. We are the message and the messenger. We are all "angels" of the "highest" vibration, if only we will allow ourselves to experience the fullness of who and what we are.

:beautiful: It truly is.

::ohm & a-tingle with the love of Source,
Christine

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 Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 03:47 pm
I've been trying to get everyone in this forum to like chocolate icecream but that isn't working out for me yet. Put down that vanilla with moose tracks this instant!!!

"There is a big mix out there, and there's lots of different things going on, and there is not one way that was intended to be the right way. Just like there's not one color or one flower or one vegetable or one fingerprint. There is not one that is to be the right one over all others. The variety is what fosters the creativity. And so you say, "Okay, I accept that there's lots of variety, but I don't like to eat cucumbers." Don't eat cucumbers. But don't ask them to be eliminated and don't condemn those who eat them. Don't stand on corners waving signs trying to outlaw the things that you don't like. Don't ruin your life by pushing against. Instead, say, "I choose this instead. This does please me."~ Abraham

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 Posted: Wed Jun 9th, 2010 05:01 pm
Interesting discussion here. My take is:

We are all consciousness manifest in physical bodies. Each of us has access to Source energy and we are part of Source (no matter what name you attach). Each one of us has access to the power that creates worlds in our daily lives if e believe it and tap into it. Each one of us has access to Source wisdom and "messages." Each teacher is filtering that message through their Being and "personality"/experiences. I take what I desire from each teacher as a gift. There is truth to each teacher's message -- I listen to the truth that resonates with me. There are physical Beings who don't acknowledge a "God" or "Source" and they too have access to this power and wisdom.

In regards to Christine's comments. I also was a little put off with hearing the word "hierarchy" and "angels" for several reasons -- first, I don't believe in hierarchy per-se and that word with angels triggered remembrances of some of the dogma of my Catholic upbringing that did not work for me as Abraham's teachings do. However, I respect each teacher and their conduit Being's filter. However, once I opened to Theo's message of love and used their meditations -- I finally felt an unconditional love and self-love more consistently and purely than ever before except when I had a near-death experience many years ago -- it is the closest I have gotten to that experience of PURE INTENSE love and knowing. This has been such a gift for me. Also, I love so much of Bashar's teachings and I'm not really into the Alien part of that message. All of these teachings are consciousness creating more thought forms, love and expansion for the infinite variety of the Universe. I love all of the teachers for reminding me of my divinity, power, love and that I create my life.

I am just so thrilled to see all of these teachings becoming more accessible to all of us. I couldn't even imagine 25 years ago that so much wisdom would be at our fingertips and that knowing our divinity experientially would be so strong and so more "mainstream." It's exciting times. ::hearts


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